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Adobe Photoshop 3.00

02k-guy02k-guy
edited May 2017 in Software
Correct me if I'm wrong, but there currently is not a 3.00 revision on WinWorld?

I've got archives of 3.00 here now, completely different layout from 3.04/3.05.

[Source Media Descriptions]
"1", "Adobe Photoshop - Disk 1", "msvcrt10.dl_", "..\disk1"
"2", "Adobe Photoshop - Disk 2", "photoshp.e1_", "..\disk2"
"4", "Adobe Photoshop - Disk 4", "photoshp.hl_", "..\disk4"
"5", "Adobe Photoshop - Disk 5", "testpict.jp_", "..\disk5"
"3", "Adobe Photoshop - Disk 3", "postcard.ps_", "..\disk3"

Disks 1 & 2 seem to be comprised mostly of Win32s files, and 3, 4, 5 seem more "Adobe-like".

Completely different layout from 3.04 (as I recall).

Comments

  • 02k-guy02k-guy
    Contents of Disk1 do NOT match up with what WinWorld or Vetusware has, either one of the betas, or 3.0.4, 3.0.5, or French:

    1994-05-12 00:00 1476 COMDLG32.DL_
    1994-05-26 00:00 89815 CRTDLL.DL_
    1994-02-21 00:00 2095 CTYPE.NL_
    1993-07-24 00:00 13824 INIUPD.DLL
    1994-01-17 00:00 13303 LOCALE.NL_
    1994-05-12 00:00 1461 LZ32.DL_
    1994-01-17 00:00 730 L_INTL.NL_
    1994-05-12 00:00 1623 MPR.DL_
    1992-03-23 00:00 74528 MSCOMSTF.DLL
    1994-08-22 00:00 103424 MSCUISTF.DLL
    1992-03-23 00:00 22097 MSDETECT.INC
    1992-03-23 00:00 24544 MSDETSTF.DLL
    1992-03-23 00:00 65440 MSINSSTF.DLL
    1992-03-23 00:00 14928 MSSHLSTF.DLL
    1992-03-23 00:00 6144 MSUILSTF.DLL
    1993-07-23 00:00 105057 MSVCRT10.DL_
    1994-05-12 00:00 3301 NETAPI32.DL_
    1994-05-26 00:00 21329 NTMSG.DL_
    1994-05-12 00:00 6011 OLECLI32.DL_
    1994-05-12 00:00 3176 OLESVR32.DL_
    1994-08-26 18:57 26322 PHOTOSHP.INF
    1994-08-26 00:00 24266 PHOTOSHP.MST
    1994-03-15 00:00 712 P_037.NL_
    1994-03-15 00:00 984 P_10000.NL_
    1994-03-15 00:00 45848 P_10001.NL_
    1994-03-15 00:00 966 P_10006.NL_
    1994-03-15 00:00 937 P_10007.NL_
    1994-03-15 00:00 1012 P_10029.NL_
    1994-03-15 00:00 1062 P_10081.NL_
    1994-03-15 00:00 743 P_1026.NL_
    1994-03-15 00:00 1510 P_1250.NL_
    1994-03-15 00:00 1241 P_1251.NL_
    1994-03-15 00:00 1482 P_1252.NL_
    1994-03-15 00:00 1243 P_1253.NL_
    1994-03-15 00:00 1471 P_1254.NL_
    1994-03-15 00:00 1644 P_437.NL_
    1994-03-15 00:00 712 P_500.NL_
    1994-03-15 00:00 1160 P_737.NL_
    1994-03-15 00:00 1624 P_850.NL_
    1994-03-15 00:00 1624 P_852.NL_
    1994-03-15 00:00 1348 P_855.NL_
    1994-03-15 00:00 1575 P_857.NL_
    1994-03-15 00:00 1646 P_860.NL_
    1994-03-15 00:00 1643 P_861.NL_
    1994-03-15 00:00 1642 P_863.NL_
    1994-03-15 00:00 1642 P_865.NL_
    1994-03-15 00:00 1348 P_866.NL_
    1994-03-15 00:00 1357 P_869.NL_
    1994-03-15 00:00 787 P_875.NL_
    1994-03-15 00:00 45692 P_932.NL_
    1994-03-15 00:00 39440 P_936.NL_
    1994-03-15 00:00 42185 P_949.NL_
    1994-03-15 00:00 62985 P_950.NL_
    1994-06-06 00:00 4136 SCK16THK.DL_
    1992-03-23 00:00 24624 SETUP.EXE
    1994-01-11 00:00 601 SETUP.LST
    1992-03-23 00:00 55620 SETUPAPI.INC
    1994-05-12 00:00 1521 SHELL32.DL_
    1994-01-17 00:00 86159 SORTKEY.NL_
    1994-01-17 00:00 1805 SORTTBLS.NL_
    1994-01-17 00:00 4971 UNICODE.NL_
    1994-05-12 00:00 1270 VERSION.DL_
    1994-06-06 00:00 18702 W32S.38_
    1994-06-06 00:00 92500 W32SCOMB.DL_
    1994-06-06 00:00 42919 W32SKRNL.DL_
    1994-06-06 00:00 260 WIN32S.EX_
    1994-06-06 00:00 21938 WINMM.DL_
    1994-05-12 00:00 1900 WINSPOOL.DR_
    1994-05-12 00:00 3673 WSOCK32.DL_
    1992-03-23 00:00 9813 _MSSETUP.EXE
    1992-03-23 00:00 89504 _MSTEST.EXE

    02k-guy wrote:
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but there currently is not a 3.00 revision on WinWorld?

    I've got archives of 3.00 here now, completely different layout from 3.04/3.05.

    [Source Media Descriptions]
    "1", "Adobe Photoshop - Disk 1", "msvcrt10.dl_", "..\disk1"
    "2", "Adobe Photoshop - Disk 2", "photoshp.e1_", "..\disk2"
    "4", "Adobe Photoshop - Disk 4", "photoshp.hl_", "..\disk4"
    "5", "Adobe Photoshop - Disk 5", "testpict.jp_", "..\disk5"
    "3", "Adobe Photoshop - Disk 3", "postcard.ps_", "..\disk3"

    Disks 1 & 2 seem to be comprised mostly of Win32s files, and 3, 4, 5 seem more "Adobe-like".

    Completely different layout from 3.04 (as I recall).
  • SomeGuySomeGuy
    Right, we don't have plain "3.0". Until recently, one of the betas was mis-labeled as 3.0, and I think that is what Vetusware has. Of course BA doesn't have it because it is not a Windows 10 beta.
  • 02k-guy02k-guy
    UPDATE: Wishful thinkiing on my part. I had downloaded PS 3.x from various sources in the past (including WW). For some reason (maybe they are recent additions) I did not see the 2 beta archives on WW.

    All I knew for sure is that what I had now was earlier than, and had a different layout from, what I'd seen in the past.

    The first, or earlier beta that WW has matches what I have.
    So "back in the day", some zit squeezer hoping to score some scene points uploaded what they claimed was a final or rtm version. Heck, maybe they actually thought it was "final" - who knows.

    Ny bad, sorry for the false hope.

    PS: I am somewhat confused by the labeling of the WW archives - is that the actual beta version numbering on the 3.x releases? And is there really a 3.4 version versus a 3.0.4?

    No biggie.
  • 02k-guy02k-guy
    SomeGuy wrote:
    Right, we don't have plain "3.0". Until recently, one of the betas was mis-labeled as 3.0, and I think that is what Vetusware has. Of course BA doesn't have it because it is not a Windows 10 beta.

    Yeah, that site is something else. They popped the champagne corks because their archives now are approaching or at 40 Tb. Hell, I may have that much, and it isn't from pulling down the entire "nightly builds" of Microsoft stuff.

    Whatever. Those peeps are in their own la-la land.
  • SomeGuySomeGuy
    The About screens for both betas are shown on the screen shots. They are absolutely betas, but I am still assuming that Adobe did not ship betas as an official "3.0". That sort of things does happen.

    Any "3.4" is also just a mislabeled 3.0.4.

    BTW, while I update the "download name", many of the actual file names may still be incorrect.
  • 02k-guy02k-guy
    My notes say this:

    Adobe Photoshop 3.0 was released to the public November 1994.

    The intial shipment of 3.0 CDs - the beta expiration code was still in the binaries. Adobe within days released a simple patch making the MAC & Win versions 3.0.1.

    ""This update fixes a problem with an expiration time constraint in
    Photoshop 3.0, preventing the application from being used prior to
    January 1, 1994 or after December 31, 1994.""

    The floppy set I have, the newest file date is August 26, 1994, putting it way behind typical diffs of file dates & release dates.
  • 02k-guy02k-guy
    UPDATE: I really think that WinWorld already has 3.00 - it's the earleir one listed as "beta".

    OK, I know you guys that run WW giot better things to do, but I was rooting around and....

    What got me to start this thread was I found an original "scene release" for "Adobe Photoshop 3.0 RELEASE - PWA".

    Research says its the same binaries as WW has - but WW has it listed as a "beta".

    Today, I'm digging around and find another "scene release" to correct the PWA one. Seems the PWA release would "fail to install".

    Now here's the deal: Anybody that was around "the scene" knows at that time, if a famous group like PWA pulled a boner, the rest of "the scene" would pile on very publicly. But they didn't pile on about it not being final - only that the installer was flaky and it would time out.

    Now, that may be a half-assed way to decide something, but the people in the warez scene were ruthless when it comes to verifying releases.
  • SomeGuySomeGuy
    ""This update fixes a problem with an expiration time constraint in
    Photoshop 3.0, preventing the application from being used prior to
    January 1, 1994 or after December 31, 1994.""
    Facepalm at Adobe.

    And this is why label scans are important.

    Unless there is some specific documented information about how the release version identified itself, I think it is fair to continue to identify it as a beta.

    I think the only real way to nail this down is to find a genuine "3.00" floppy disk set and kryoflux it. But from the sound of it, a genuine "3.00" disk would be very rare.
  • SpamtownUSASpamtownUSA
    Forgive me, first post and noobish... would an original patch disk 3.0.1 from adobe have any value?? It has a letter from adobe with it. also had two sets of 3.0 floppies but I haven't looked at them closely yet.

    i can post a pic later today. Cant for the life of me appraise this stuff when the most info I have found so far is this thread.
  • SpamtownUSASpamtownUSA
    These are just image links for the 3.0.1 disk and letter. So, should I start sticking the floppy sets into the G3 I have and if I did what in particular would I look for.. it might take me a few days to get to it but I will post more about it

    https://ibb.co/ibHcqv
    https://ibb.co/b4bRiF
    https://ibb.co/cgQxqv
    https://ibb.co/e2rsOF
  • SomeGuySomeGuy
    If you do, make absolutely sure to write protect the disks. Both Macs and newer Windows PCs have a nasty habit of writing unwanted crap to disks.
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