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 Post Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 11:34 pm | Post subject: Thrift store PC- AMD 5x86
 
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$5 and I've gotten that out of it already (72-pin SIMMS that I assume are fine, not sure of capacity yet though)

But whenever I turn it on, it doesn't do anything. I hear the fans spin up, and that's it. No beeps, but I haven't inspected it enough to really find out if it's plugged in or not. When I first opened the case, the processor fan and heatsink were off of it, and as mentioned on the chip itself, "heathsink and fan required".

Could it be a bad processor? These chips have gold in them, so if anything I'll send it in, but it's socket three. I'm thinking my other 486 board is socket 1.. it also has some cache memory, which I guess I can put in the other beast.

If not, what could it be?

This is literally just a toy, and maybe a learning experiment for some of my friends. DOSBox is for n00bs. :P

Oh and is an AMD 5x86 faster than a 486DX2 at 66MHz? I'm not sure of this thing's clockrate, but hell, if it's faster, and this chip isn't fried.. I guess I can upgrade my other system. Just for fun. XD


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 Post Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 11:56 am | Post subject: Re: Thrift store PC- AMD 5x86
 
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Wiki is your friend for basics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Am5x86

Might be worth getting to work, as it's speed would make it a super hot 486 era rig.
Does the board have PCI ports? If so maybe worth keeping as a good Dos machine.

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 Post Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 12:07 pm | Post subject: Re: Thrift store PC- AMD 5x86
 
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It would be a cool PC to rebuild, though I don't really know where you'd get a heatsink for that. Maybe try to find a "socket 3" branded one, but I'm not seeing anything ATM... would any 486-based HSF work? I'll try to find out.


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 Post Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 12:09 pm | Post subject: Re: Thrift store PC- AMD 5x86
 
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THis thing has been upgraded to the 5x86. The board reminds me of one of the smaller 1993-era boards. VESA, ISA and it's baby AT.

Turns out it runs Windows 95, has 16MB of RAM, and the reset switch was stuck in the down position. XD

The board also has slots for 36-pin (I think 36?) SIMMS as well. I wonder if I can find some cheap SIMMS to bring this to 32, like my old packard bell. I don't wanna put that thing out of commission by removing it's RAM though.

Btw it has a heatsink and fan, they were lying at the bottom of the case. I put it back on. XD


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 Post Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 12:15 pm | Post subject: Re: Thrift store PC- AMD 5x86
 
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The smaller SIMMS are 30 pin, If it's an older board, the 5x86 is probably the fastest chip you can get for it. Is it running an ISA or VLB graphics card?

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 Post Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 4:19 pm | Post subject: Re: Thrift store PC- AMD 5x86
 
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Pretty sure it's VLB. It's a Trident card, that doesn't support 16-bit colour. I'm going to look through my junk and see if I have a better card. My other 486 had a Cirrus SVGA onboard that supported 16-bit colour, so it's surprising that this thing doesn't have that. I guess this really was a budget system. 8-bit colour is horrible to look at, even for Windows 3.11, lol.


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 Post Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 4:54 pm | Post subject: Re: Thrift store PC- AMD 5x86
 
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Is the card really long and has two sets of pins, standard ISA and a seconds set that looks like a PCI port connector in reverse? If so that's a VLB card, and should be able to do 16bit just fine if the correct drivers are installed. Which they probably aren't. IF it's a Trident it's probably an 8xxx or a 9xxx series ISA card, ranging form 128K to 1Mb RAM, sometimes 2MB.

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 Post Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 9:22 am | Post subject: Re: Thrift store PC- AMD 5x86
 
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I've got some older SIMMS I'll send to you if you need them. Not sure of the density or anything but if it's helpful...


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 Post Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 2:52 am | Post subject: Re: Thrift store PC- AMD 5x86
 
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Lupinthe3rd wrote:
Is the card really long and has two sets of pins, standard ISA and a seconds set that looks like a PCI port connector in reverse? If so that's a VLB card, and should be able to do 16bit just fine if the correct drivers are installed. Which they probably aren't. IF it's a Trident it's probably an 8xxx or a 9xxx series ISA card, ranging form 128K to 1Mb RAM, sometimes 2MB.


Yeah it's just ISA, lol. Thought it was VLB, but the hard drive controller is actually VLB. It also supports an IDE CD-ROM drive, weirdly. I'm just going to keep this little guy in it for now.

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I've got some older SIMMS I'll send to you if you need them. Not sure of the density or anything but if it's helpful...


Thanks, but it wouldn't be worth the hassle. It's just a toy system, and it works fine for DOS and Windows 3.11. That's all it's useful for anyway.


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 Post Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 5:12 pm | Post subject: Re: Thrift store PC- AMD 5x86
 
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That's pretty sweet, a VLB controller card, I have one or two but haven't got the correct jumper settings for them, so can't use them, for now at least.

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